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And CBS posted some images of Emperor Georgious quarters on the ISS Discovery. But then again Im not a troll. I think you are talking jibberish. The rumors started and spread like wildfire when some fanatics of Star Trek Discovery found out that Mary gained a few pounds between the seasons. Sonequa is a great actress. Yes but Star Trek shouldnt be about lazy writing, poor character development and bad storytelling. STAR TREK and its various marks are trademarks of CBS Studios Inc. 2023 CBS Studios Inc./Paramount Pictures Corp. 2006-2023 SciFanatic Network | Legal/Privacy Info, Copyright 2023 | MH Newsdesk by MH Themes, Podcast: All Access Dives Into The Latest Episode Of Picard And Probes Star Treks TV (And Movie) Future, BREAKING: Star Trek: Discovery To Conclude With Season 5, Review: Star Trek: Picard Runs Deep In Seventeen Seconds, Watch Picard And Riker Reverse Their Classic Roles In Star Trek: Picard Episode 303 Clip, J.J. Abrams Talks Compelling Story For Star Trek 4; Chris Pine Expresses Frustration Over Wait, I hope Mary Wiseman is okay or has a good reason for her weight gain since S1. Weight gain from thyroid issues, anti depressants, steroids, is a fairly small percent of the population. 71 comments so far. He was in the Travis Mayweather category. I assume my feelings towards them are what Wesley-haters endure. Thats just a matter of preference. Yet, she is. You are correct, it comes down to the same thing, poor plot development. Development for the fifth season of Discovery is well underway, with production expected to begin in June. IMHO, if she usually eats well, trains and commits to staying healthy, then life can be a lot of fun leading an active adventurous life while still enjoying food and fine dining and it is irrelevant what people say about her looks. If you cant deal with the idea of conflicting opinions then I really dont think you should be online at the moment. Btw have you come across any good DS9 books about what happened to Sisko or the rest of the crew after the finale? I think that she is one of the go-to people when there is hard science stuff to crack. Disco has a lot of problems storywise But not her looks! Smart doesnt mean competent. She was annoying to me, and the crew gave her a lot of leeway. She is relatable and human and wonderful. Btw, I really liked the scene of Tilly and Burnham running back in S1 and eating protein, carbs and fat post workout. Sonequa Martin-Green as Burnham hugging Mary Wiseman as Tilly in Coming Home. Definitely a character created for the TikTok generation to like.. high five, hugs and ditziness with lots of over emotional feelings on display. Do you see that tension? And doesnt that just make the point about the difference between fitness and apparent chunkiness or curveyness. There really are some of the DS9 authors that are stronger and some that tend to tell too much and show to little in their writing in my view. The future doesnt have a preferred accent. Maybe Saru wont be on the ship as much but Im guessing they are going the same direction. Agree. There have been moments where they tried to do that, but like everything else on Discovery where self-doubt and emotional scenes of worry in darkly-lit rooms need to be front and center, they always seemed to bring Tilly back to spazzing out because she was nervous about whether she can do it before being put on a mission. Sincerely, obesity is defined in terms of the proportion of body fat associated higher risk of illness. And its funny that you bring up needing constant therapy as a bad thing when a ton of real life people see a therapist on a regular basis. Obviously I dont know what M. Wiseman is like. I guess making Tilly first officer isnt anywhere close to ridiculous as making KT Kirk a Captain who was still a cadet and had probably spent 2 weeks in space before he got the jobbut its pretty damn close. Good for her, and I love the character! Just like every other character in a show that generally is badly written. advantage. Lwaxana sometimes I dont mind her simply because she puts Picard and Odo on their back feet, but she was very OTT on shows that didnt really have a lot of OTT characters, and there was little reason for her to keep appearing on DS9 beyond reverence towards Majel Barrett. That promise was fulfilled in last weeks season finale, and Wiseman is talking about her return. DS9 Avatar books 1 and 2 were quite good and helpfully kicked off the DS9 Relaunch sequence. Good for Mary! My point was Why does the ships therapist have a bridge station? As an actress and a person I dont mind her at all, shes lovely. Overweight is a risk of becoming obese. So I was also just very excited for the fans. Tilly is part Wesley Crusher and part Barclay. In fact, thats all the Discovery crew is qualified as in the 32nd century. She went away and supposedly became an amazing well rounded person. But it would seem to me that it might ought to be standard practice to have a Betazed on the bridge on all starships if those stills were so needed. The last novel just came out last year (where does she find the time lol). Was that really a Betazoid characteristic or was she just reading faces and gestures? Mary Wiseman as Tilly in episode 402, Anomaly. I wanted to be bigger and I spent much of my childhood, adolescence and even into my young adulthood doing all kinds of things to get bigger. She laughs at the memory. Every woman is very beautiful. Wiseman would be smart to ignore the haters because their posts are rooted in negativity and hate. No it says a lot about the incredibly dangerous message she is sending. The very basis of Star Trek is in direct conflict with people like that. Release date: Star Trek Discovery season 4 will release on November 18 in the US. By existing? each series has traditionally had someone that acts as a way to explore the inner humanityie spock, data, odo, doc/seven. She wrote ten books based around this concept and still writing them. Ill never forget when I, a woman of 160# at 58, healthy, deemed fit by military and bodyfat percentage indexes, approached the Credit Union one day, when the guy at the ATM finished his transaction, turned, saw me, and yelled Hey, fatass!. Shes loved. Keep up the great work ladies! I hope Mary Wiseman is okay or has a good reason for her weight gain since S1. Why did they do that? That is definitely not a true statement. My condolences to you, for your mum. PS. That will be the one I read first! I like the way you think! They told us and a handful of other outlets what to expect for their characters and more. Tilly accepts herself but she rises to challenges, leads in a crisis, is there for her friends but still explores what she wants for *herself*, and mentors others to help them grow! The Relaunch Litverse books for DS9 are uneven in my reading experience as compared to the TNG and the Voyager books once Beyer took over. A person who we see strive to make themselves a better person. Thats the whole point why they wanted HER to teach at the newly formed Academy They wanted someone with the original 23rd century optimism and enthusiasm I share that notion a lot And yeah, Im glad Starfleet doesnt work like actual military, And no, S3 was not stupidity. I look at Disco as adding a new flavor to the existing universe. However, we do know that David Mack does. Im not the idiot fringe but her weight is none of our business (and, also, she had a baby before S3, I believe). Maybe its just me, but I dont really care about women or mens weight on TV shows, I dont care for negative comments on them by haters, but neither do I care for the actors/actresses making such a whiney big deal about it. And for your own gain, right? I suppose thats why some places are rising and others are very visibly in decline. I want to really like Discovery, I do. And Id add she has a hero complex too always wants to save the day/galaxy/whathaveyou. But I really do like Book a lot! Im mostly just curious if Tillys removal from Disco came from Wiseman looking to do other projects or if they wrote it in and broke the news that she was getting cut as a regular. Its good to have ALL type of people/stories in our Star Trek Universe. Hes been very creative in using callbacks and interweaving eras in his own work. American actress Mary Wiseman payed several smaller roles in the past but recently gained a big recognition as Cadet Sylvia Tilly in new iteration of Star Trek franchise called Star trek: Discovery. Im reaally hoping season 4 will be smoother, Im holding thumbs here. What was your point to this comment, anyway, except to minimize and dismiss support for plus-size women? Try the Daily Mail for 5 minutes. I have this image in my head of the EPs saying to Mack that theyd like species that havent been main characters in other shows and asking him to give a list of options for a big and strong species, a species without a bianary gender etc. However, I do struggle with popular media normalizing unhealthy weights whether over or underweight because they are health risks. I think Saru holds out as being the most consistent, and Tilly is close, but not quite. Plenty of curvy ladies are quite healthy and active. Conversational, easy to listen to and understand every point. However, even if the Academy series moves forward, it likely wouldnt go into production in 2022 or even 2023, leaving plenty of time for Tilly to appear in season five of Discovery. Picard is the third Kurtzman Production. I find her character interesting, but inconsistent. And if people are critical of her because her appearance does not meet their expectations, they dont really have a clue of what Star Trek is all about. David, has Michael becoming captain changed Books relationship with her? There is a great scene back in S1 when Tilly and Burnham are doing cardio training and post workout are eating their protien, carbs and fat nutrition, something that the body requires after a hard cardio workout. Acceptance? BTW, I know this is waaaaaay off topic, but since you are the literary Trek lover on this site and keep up with a lot of the books, do you think Prodigy is going to use some of Kirsten Beyers Full Circle Voyager story lines? Wait I havent watched season 4, nor will I ever after the stupidity that was season 3 But now shes a leader at the academy?! And Books starshipthink of it as Star Treks answer to the Astro Megaship from Power Rangers in Space. It feels the only reason was to have a non-binary character, which after a few episodes ended up fading into the background with the rest of the furniture anyway. We have no information that Beyer consults in this show. Sylvia Tilly was an ambitious female Human Starfleet officer who lived during the mid- 23rd century. Where did all the good writers go?? We love that someone who isnt super fit was cast, especially that its a woman. Barclay was funny and silly but relatable due to his social anxiety. The fourth episode of the new season of Star Trek: Discovery ("All is Possible") arrived this morning and it has fans buzzing about Lt. Sylvia Tilly. I realize there are people who like his quirks. I hope that Wiseman uses that info into the future because it does work for fat burning and muscle building.. Then that very well could be something for not just women but everyone to aspire towards. Plus, TNG literally had a therapist as part of the bridge crew. Sorry TM, its MY fault! I wasnt complaining there were therapists on board. I think theres room for it. There is a wealth of other outlets for health and fitness information, that frankly are more dispassionate and factual than getting health and fitness info from celebrities. should take a pear of pruning shears and cut off that little pecker of yours (its what Killy would do). Well, the entire point is she absolutely looks the way I expect her to. No one of my Trekkie friends, growing up with TNG watch this anymore. And so she will be part of this universe and this world for many years to come. How does Tillys scientific mind come into play in solving the crisis of the anomaly in season four? Its gotten very stale now. She only graduated from SA herself at the end of season 1. A statistical average does not justify shaming or ridiculing anyone. but it looks like she did simply did it because she was her friend and room mate. Lets stick with the science and not target individuals. It explains why each scene is half-redundant and half-contradictory with the others within the same episode. :). So when very capable people feel un-capable, crazy things happen. Sense of morals. How blandly Puritan. Keep up with theStar Trek Universe at TrekMovie.com. Since you said mum Im going to assume youre in the UK, and I can personally confirm that you can get some great help, including face to face therapy, through the NHS, for free. The only thing she is qualified for at Starfleet Academy is as a 23rd century specialist. Every character aboard that ship represents a minority. As you put it: I love how Disco has put the human back into the human experience. And I agree wholeheartedly. Sonequa is by all accounts probably the best or one of the best chef de compagnie of all the Trek series. Just more pandering. She is absolutely beautiful just as she is. No one can argue that Shatner is anything less than fit at whatever age. And Kirsten Beyer probably consults on that show too along with her duties on Picard and Discovery, so its possible at least. So, hes likely a good fit for the Hageman brothers who say that they want to bring the Wrath of Khan feeling to the Prodigy audience. Plus, TNG literally had a therapist as part of the bridge crew. Nibiru? Ok, SH didnt invent this. Especially when there were just so many more qualified people for the job on and off the ship. Which I think would be a tremendous mistake. My best advice is to give some of the Litverse books a try and decide for yourself which writers appeal to you. Some of us dont grasp the very basic foundation of what Star Trek is all about!? Its not celebrating obesity to say that her body is her business and nobody elses. If they wont act a woman should take a pear of pruning shears and cut off that little pecker of yours (its what Killy would do). Internationally, the series is available on Paramount+ in Australia, Latin America and the Nordics, and on Pluto TV in Austria, France, Germany . Actually, the production team is not helping either. 42 comments so far. I just wonder if maybe they are adapting the basic idea to what we are seeing in Prodigy since the Protostar couldve been part of the Full Circle program and was sent back to the DQ for a specific mission? There are a number of places you can receive professional help and I strongly recommend you seek that help. Mary Wiseman and David Ajala with their co-stars Wilson Cruz, Sonequa Martin-Green, Blu del Barrio, and Anthony Rapp at NYCC 2021, (Trailer also available for international viewers onInstagramandstartrek.com). Remember , they had steroids and thyroid problems in the 80's, but the majority of people were off normal weight, which today would be called skinny. Only showing up for briefings when that specialty was needed for that particular situation. But Tilly and the nervous mess Adira has devolved into? But I would like to read some of the TNG books Ive heard about, especially the Destiny series which I know is a big crossover with all the classic shows and the Borg. We have both Mary Wiseman and Sonequa Martin-Green talking about body issues, Kate Mulgrew jumping in too, and some more behind-the-scenes photos. Hahahaha! TrekMovie.com is not endorsed, sponsored or affiliated with CBS Studios Inc., Paramount Pictures Corp. or the Star Trek franchise. Overall, I like the fun character of Tilly (too bad the writers room made her first officer). Mary Wiseman: I wish there maybe in the future theres room for some protective best friend/boyfriend energy. Not sure what her weight has to do with anything. However, Tilly's rise to Lieutenant in Thursday's episode of Star Trek: Discovery did not invoke feelings of joy. Mary's fans are curious to know if she is indeed expecting a little one but the rumors are false. During the 1st season, Michael helped Tilly to gain confidence and then continued to nurture that confidence through . If we dont have tolerance and respect, how are we able to learn and improve humanity!? The burden is now on SNWThat show can either make or break it with regards to these issues. Its her, Adira, Stamets, and Reno who are the really hard science people. I would expect more from the Star Trek crowd, which is usually quite enlightened. Ive re-learned through life experiences how to stop and smell the roses again you might say, among other things. Mary Wiseman: Right, when you use empathy for evil, its manipulation. At New York Comic Con, TrekMovie participated in some group interviews with members of the cast and crew,. In a Paramount+ featurette (which you can see below) about the making of the episode, Wiseman talks about how Tilly has changed: Coming back for the finale was really exciting for me because she comes back in this fully black Starfleet suit. The visual reboot premise was overstretched. I lovvvve Lilly/Tilly and her curves. Martin-Green says she has come to accept changes in her body, especially after the birth of her second child shortly before production on season three: With my first pregnancy I bounced back without trying (which is a crime, by the way, that we expect women to do that after birth rather than focus on healing). Its a tricky one, as someone who is outside America and didnt have English as the first language growing up its more noticeable. Since season one, Tilly (Mary Wiseman). She seems to be a lovely human being and all that in real life but her acting is not the best. If you read what Mary and Sonequa are saying, they arent promoting any particular body style or fitness choice, just that they are as they are and only they have the right to choose how that should be. 108 comments so far. Therefore, I love her. I dont think youre ready for that kind of interaction, online, or anywhere else. Wasnt it Saru who made Tilly the First Officer? It took this for me to finally accept who I am. Her body shape is fabulousshe is gorgeous. Anyway it was just a thought. Why wouldnt someone want to be more like that? You made very good points and I do agree. Weve seen Captain Killy, so what does Mirror Universe Book look like? I love Tilly. :-), What, you mean you dont follow your patients around at work, giving suggestions? Mary Wiseman: That experience affects her so much this season. Im sure many may NOT be a Janeway but could at least look at her and say thats what I aspire to be. If there had been a believable logical progression from Cadet Tilly in season 1 to Starfleet Academy instructor in season 4, where they had built up the character to where she shed bits and pieces of the awkwardness as she became more confident in her abilities. I think others that make such claims are having their own feel feels hurt or nostalgia rattled. Has Tilly body-shaming outside of the Twitter imbeciles been a thing? Wiseman had other things to do. It inspired her to switch careers. And, in that sense, it is okay to be used as it was above. Now if it turns out, Burnham was being influenced by an alien entity or she has been given insight into the future which made it imperative that she rush Tilly into becoming the Number One, then I can accept it. It would definitely be great if Rhys was promoted to first officer. Any accent would be acceptable for a time that hasnt happened yet. And tons dont. Its one thing thats definitely been improved upon by the more recent stuff. As long as the stories remain laser-focused on the *people* their *relationships* and the *emotions* generated therein, instead of ships, gadgets, and effects, well be fine. I notice that for whatever reason certain words will trigger the language to switch to French on my phone, and then I have to go back and correct everything. If Tilly needed to pick up a phaser or be physically active then that means the Discovery is in some serious shit, with it either having been boarded and their entire security personnel neutralised, or with Tilly separated from the ship, most like due to its destruction. Sick and tired of T and A being the main focus. Whereas Tilly is an oh shes just like me and validates all my insecurities so its ok to be as I am. Body shaming is wrong and immature. This modern trend of celebrating obesity is what is wrong with American society, and is another reason why the rest of the world laughs at America. Tillys a fantastic character. And to be honest, she never really helped him out all that much. What do you mean? Mary Wiseman is sending the message that your body is your own, your responsibility, and nobody elses business, not any sort of health and fitness message. Because she symbolizes the Trekkies, geeks, nerds. I originally was skeptical but then I turned around in season 1 and really started enjoying it. Except that would imply that her being there was the exception rather than the rule. I recall when Trek featured a French captain with an English accent. Body shaming is just another category of bullying, with the same general goal of the shamer making him/herself feel superior by putting down others around them, rather than elevate him/herself with goodwill and compassion. You can start with those or the later books in the Time to sequence without significant confusion. The door is open, I suppose, if that show should fail for some reason, but I doubt theyll just throw her back into the same role on the ship like nothing ever happened. Let it die. Thats the thing about DSC. Sonequa, Their characters are fantastic as are all the others. I always have to correct it, so its not terribly efficient. It just really doesnt fit in this show however. And I just really love having Janeway back. I am a therapist in real life, and even *I* think it was crazy that they had a therapist on the bridge. No character like her would ever have graduated Starfleet. She's interviewed several Star Trek . Well, its certainly a good thing that Tilly is a fictional character, and neither she nor the woman who plays her (Wiseman) is in todays real-world Navy.. Everybody loves ., meant literally, is never true. I see them as similar. Shes responsible for her subordinates and to lead by example. And I belong., After reading the Forbes article, Wiseman got some backup from someone who knows what its like to be a woman in the captains chair: Kate Mulgrew, who thinks Mary is killing it on Discovery and should pay the haters no mind., I saw the @Forbes article on Mary Wiseman @may_wise clearly killing it onscreen & off in #StarTrekDiscovery. Though frankly, I find people like her generally seem more aware of their overall health and fitness than people who try to fit others images. Everybody loves is an idiom, it should never be taken as a strict statement. The Enterprise D was the only place we saw a councelor. Tilly looks great and her weight is a not a issue. Its this kind of nonsense that ruins Discovery. I agree, in fairness Barclay was relatable in many ways, socially awkward but not too overplayed. So it has been hard, and its really hard to avoid, because it pops up on all the [social media] accounts, or people comment on my posts with cruel, unscientific comments. So smart in the Starfleet tradition. Someone with a lack of intelligence throws a race card at every debate. I basically just know the books that gets discussed or reviewed here. Nah Book is Boba Fett and I want to see the spin-off series THE BOOK OF BOOK :-). Of all the issues I have with Star Trek Discovery, Mary Wiseman/Tilly is definitely not among them. Marys my TV crush for the last 3 years. Ive finally had the chance to reply to your comment about Lue Elizondo etc on the other thread. Everyone in the world do not look and act the same if it was for me, it would be a very boring uninterested world. I dont love her the way I love Saru or Pike, or Janeway or Seven or Picard or Spock. Yes! David Ajala: Yeah. Find more stories on theStar Trek Universe. Just blows my mind. (Hey, Im likely one of the oldest people here, and its too easy/lazy to remain stuck in the 1960s and 70s! Not everyone is skinny and not everyone likes skinny. Thats the thought I had last season, when they had the perfect chance to wirte out Burnam (I believe it was Reunification III or the one after that) and they just didnt follow through at the end. Loved that show, so did my wife. Theres a difference between celebrating obesity and accepting individual human beings, treating them as human beings, and not targeting them specifically for emotional harassment. Tillys great contribution is that shes NOT that sort of superwoman most people can never be. Han Van Sciver and Mary Wiseman in At the Wedding (Photo: Marc J. Franklin), Watch Wiseman and cast and crew talk about the season four finale. Mary Wiseman has established herself as a talented actor on Star Trek: Discovery. Im a human being, you know? But one could argue a ship full of Barclays is not the most convincing portrait of humanity. Ridiculous or not, it has been well established in Trek canon that starships have counselors/therapists, and they are often used by the crew. Everybody does NOT love Tilly. As a Black girl, I felt I was supposed to look this way. Please back up your statement. Neither were annoying. I personally have battled weight issues all my life since high school and when I am eating healthy and trainng hard, I feel great and can do almost anything (power skating, fast hockey, tons of physical activity) meanwhile the opposite is true when I let myself go (and that does happen). Id add Kirk to that at several times over the years. Oh, I think its fine they had a counselor on the SHIP; I just think its weird they had her on the BRIDGE. While not getting specific about if or where we will see Tilly again, Wiseman also hinted the finale was not the end of her story: Tilly is not somebody who lets people leave her life. Even Picard has his own show. For more info or tickets visit the Lincoln Center Theater site. A Stitch in Time kicks off the Garak/Cardassian books and is excellent. Having Tilly be one was justdumb.

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